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    Post  1nsider Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:30 pm

    ok, you guys may think of yourself whatever you want to,
    but making a so-called tactical voice chat (copy, roger, underfire, in position, in whatever wherever however) alone doesn't make your gaming proper.
    when you:
    1. throw a blind nades from one corner of the map to another;
    2. run to your favorite glitch to the enemy side, just 'cause you want to glitch a little;
    3. run to whatever favorite sniper spot that's located opposite of your team's movement vector;
    4. chase your enemy all across the map 'cause you just want to get a freakin' kill;
    5. don't understand a simple concept of stepping back
    in general - when you just think of yourself, neverminding the consequences of your movement,
    which affects the spawn system constantly,
    well when you do all that - just don't think that it all helps tactical gaming anyhow.
    at least, don't claim that it does.

    it's not the msg of "i'm going in to strike 'em" that makes life for your team easier,
    it's when you think of your team integrity before actually doing anything.

    the guy with zero kills can win a game for the team,
    just by taking a right positions to stabilize the game flow.

    you can be one of those guys who can make it to the top of the list by the of round,
    and yet you could be the weakest link in the team, 'cause your actions helped you alone
    and your teammates died a lot, 'cause you've failed to protect their flank or whatever at the moment
    when they were relying on you the most.

    grow & overcome the freakin' egoism
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    Post  Pvt Parts Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:51 pm

    Oooops I twisted my ankle falling off of DL's soap box Very Happy
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    Post  1nsider Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:10 am

    PF. Green Label wrote:Oooops I twisted my ankle falling off of DL's soap box Very Happy
    Get yourself your own Exclamation
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    Post  LightBringer Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:24 am

    well said, DL.
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    Post  KM. Green Label Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:50 am

    The MAN has spoken ! ! !
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    Post  su bundu Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:55 am

    the soviat has spoken Very Happy
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    Post  su bundu Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:56 am

    sorry the soviet!!!
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    Post  NP. Green Label Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:33 pm

    Oh, su bundu, that jokes are really not funny.
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    Post  Barnaby Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:36 pm

    I've stood on that box with DL and I've seen the promised land . . . . . . . NOW I'M A BELIEVER

    I've walked and stalked over our battle fields.
    I've laid for ever in a muddy hole.
    I've kept still in a bush while draped in twigs and leaves.
    Waiting waiting waiting for my KILL

    My aim is to have the best positive kill ratio of kills to deaths I can achieve.
    6 kills against 2 deaths gives a ratio of 3
    While 20 kills againnst 15 deaths only gives a ratio of 1.33

    We should all adopt the **kill ratio** as the true measure of GAME SKILL which would make the game play much more interesting.
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    Post  1nsider Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:04 pm

    I would go even further and I'd say that it's possible, at some level, for a player not to take a single shot
    through all round and yet he could be the most valuable asset for the team success
    (controlling the spawn process by taking right positions, providing accurate & well-timed intelligence, placing clays at bottle necks).
    Well, it's basics, most of you know that.

    My main point is - it's not fast attack or glitching or whatever that irritates me,
    but it's the driving force of player's actions.

    Actually, I believe GL reached some point in CoD4 when we understand each other faster than we say it.
    I understand well that it's much more difficult to reach that point for non-clan guys,
    but most of the time I don't see even an intention to accept an existence of other players in the team.
    So, that's what I'm calling for.
    You'll start to respect & protect each other adapting to each other's gamestyle - you'll be fine.
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    Post  Barnaby Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:14 pm

    Yes you've just described my basic game hold the best spawn point on a map offer eyes on intel and set up protector clays.
    I try tp get into a central position with top cover if possible and also ask that downed troopers fight their way back to the initial fight fox-hole so as to maintain a solid defense line. Of course each trooper needs to vary his exat position so as to keep the enemy guessing.

    It also is important not to leave gaps in this line that the enemy could exploit and each trooper needs to view map regularly to plug/watch over any gaps that might appear until the revived trooper gets back into position.

    Get fell in......................
    ATTENTION
    http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?hl=en&source=hp&q=music+where+eagles+dare&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=ygnjSvvsEYWJ4Qbysqz5AQ&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CBwQqwQwAw#
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    Post  Barnaby Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:20 pm

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    Post  Sgt. Pepper Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:24 pm

    If our players came here to read it, everything would go much smoother. Well writ DL. Hope they read this and get the point.
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    Post  Barnaby Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:40 pm

    God this is powerful stuff >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_KURu51S8M&feature=player_embedded

    Hell on earth turn up the sound.
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    Post  Pvt Parts Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:31 pm

    You can see that I started out with a flippant coment at the start of this but I want to assure you that I am and have always been on DL's side regarding this.

    I love the clip MK chose to illustrate his point "Where Eagles Dare" is a great film just like GL is a great clan

    I totally enjoy those moments when we get it all together and update each other with quality info

    I also appreciate that this is a game and for some the enjoyment of smoke and beer combines to make comms slow and sometimes useless but very funny

    I am sure that the Soviet coment was not meant to be an insult but would like to remind all about the respect issues of GL and suggest that knowing the persons you are engaging with prior to messing with their tollerance is a good way forward affraid

    Use of good comms combined with the understanding of tactical expectations is not easy even for those that have done it for real. Keep calm think of the rest of your comrades - do not! Exclamation abandon your post or you will be shot (by your own team for desertion) if not the enemy Twisted Evil
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    Post  1nsider Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:51 pm

    PF. Green Label wrote:
    I am sure that the Soviet coment was not meant to be an insult
    Actually bundu just knows little secret of me having the 'red corner' where I have communists doctrins & posters hanging up on them walls and shit. You guys realize that CoD4 playing is just a virtual training for our troops & modern communists PR techniques ? Kinda 2-in-1 approach.
    I mean - you don't actually believe that soviet empire is gone ?
    Don't worry, we'll come to liberate y'all.
    El pueblo unido jamás será vencido!
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    Post  LightBringer Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:53 pm

    hehehe,

    Exactly what i always thougt,
    but you forget one big reason they can't attack europe:

    China.

    They can't maintain war on two fronts of this magnitude tongue

    So, no DL in my home yet.
    maybe an NP, but that's ok, i'll pay him of with european, swedish girls.

    now, no jokes: i truly believe communist system is better than our so called democratic.
    But it has to be inforced the right way, not like in the past.

    but that's a whole other discussion.

    Guests of GL: listen to DL, he is pointing out the way it should be, kill/death ratio OVER topscore of team
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    Post  Pvt Parts Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:30 am

    Dam man I always lnew you were undercover Joe Embarassed
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    Post  NP. Green Label Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:35 pm

    PF. Green Label wrote:Dam man I always lnew you were undercover Joe Embarassed
    I hope im still under cover Twisted Evil

    About this jokes: i heard it not only from bundu. Don't know, did they do it to abuse or to take fun or something else. They just don't know what they are talking about. It's like making decision about real world by only watching tv shows.

    About KDR: interesting view of marking expirience\usability for team. However, exists lot of ppl who siting in one corner for whole game and shooting only when enemy is at their aim. It's kinda of true sniper's behavior, but is it really more useful for team (according their perfect kdr) than guy who have more deaths, but moving around front line and know, where enemy is and where can he move? Another example - guys like epi: pretty good kdr, big contribution into team score, bot not into tactic of team. Sry, but like robot serving people.
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    Post  su bundu Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:41 pm

    i ask excuse to NP and DL...that was only a joke....i hope you have not offended too much
    ...im a history fun...and i know what did the communism in russia

    so sorry Embarassed

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    Post  1nsider Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:11 am

    Chill, bundu dude. Ofc we know you meant nothing weird.
    I guess from the facts point of view, I'm still a soviet-guy, considering that I was accepted to be a 'pioneer' (kinda like boy-scouts in US), and I never made my way out of there Surprised
    The procedure is that you're giving a wow and stuff like that.
    And the procedure out is that you give away your red scarf and so on. I never gave mine away.
    The next stage supposed to be becoming a "komsomolets", that's kinda a junior activist, but by the time I was old enough - it was all gone. I guess for good. Though, I was a hell of an active 'pioneer' Wink

    Communism sucks. Capitalsim sucks. Every goddamn "-ism" out there sucks big time.
    It could be nice being a theory, but by the time it makes to the real policy
    it's abused left & right by the ones with irrepressible hunger for power & money.

    Whether long range weapon or suicide bomber
    Wicked mind is a weapon of mass destruction
    Whether saw it in Sun or BBC 1
    Misinformation is a weapon of mass destruct
    You coulda Caucasian or a poor Asian
    Racism is a weapon of mass destruction
    Whether inflation or globalization
    Fear is a weapon of mass destruction

    huh, who's cranky now ?
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    Post  Dutchy Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:05 am

    DL. Green Label wrote:Communism sucks. Capitalsim sucks. Every goddamn "-ism" out there sucks big time.
    Time for Anarchy Smile
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    Post  NP. Green Label Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:21 pm

    Hm, if i remember corretcly (from my history lessons at school long time ago), communism was built on idea of special anarchy (at the beginning at least) ==> also sux mk'' Razz
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    Post  NP. Green Label Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:22 pm

    NP. Green Label wrote:mk''
    wtf i didn't type it Shocked
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    Post  Barnaby Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:30 pm

    wot I do then.
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